GameHounds Episode 41: Gears of Fish and Peas

In: Podcasts by Edie Sellers

11 Nov 2008

Wow. Has it really been more than a week since we chatted?

Rather than bore you with details, we’ll just shoot to the crux of it all. This is GameHounds Episode 41. It was recorded 10 hours before Edie boarded a plane, and it was uploaded from Boise, Idaho. Yeah, that’s why it’s late. Edie and Kevin were in the air and having their bags disappear into the airline netherworld.

So we apologize. But at least you have it now, right?

On the show, Edie and Cooper Hawkes discuss the latest in the gaming industry news, including:


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9 Responses to GameHounds Episode 41: Gears of Fish and Peas



November 11th, 2008 at 4:41 pm

Glad you are ok.


Bodabo 420

November 11th, 2008 at 6:08 pm

I got to say that episode was much much better than last weeks.Im sure you had your reasons for that. lol no offense. Back to the classic Gamehounds.
I agree with Hawkes 100% GO WATCH THAT SOUTHPARK EPISODE everyone!!

I also agreed with everything said in that potato chip disscussion haha. But those salt n pepper chips that Hawkes was talking about I find them kind of gross after like half the bag,same with the salt and vinigar chips,but those are great with a nice glass of milk to get rid of that mouth soarness. Has anyone tried dipping Lays regular chips into your KFC BBQ sauce??, BEST SHIT EVER….lol I sound like a fat guy, im quite the opposite.



November 11th, 2008 at 7:47 pm

The rules of the road for LBP levels are pretty explicitly spelled out in the EULA:

You agree that you will not create, transfer, share, send, submit or upload any User Generated Content that:
(a) is protected by copyright, patent, trademark or trade secret or otherwise subject to third-party proprietary rights, including but not limited to rights of privacy and publicity (unless you are or have permission from the rightful owner);
(b) contains fraudulent statements or misrepresentations that could damage SCE or any third party;
(c) contains any statements or materials that disparage, ridicule or scorn SCE or any third party;
(d) is obscene, defamatory, threatening, harassing, predatory, pornographic, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive, or encourages conduct that would violate any law or is otherwise inappropriate;
(e) is an advertisement or solicitation of business;
(f) is an impersonation of another person; or
(g) violates any of the rules of Online Conduct, other terms of this Agreement, terms of the PSN Terms of Service and Usage Agreement or any other terms related to this game

They’ve moderated fewer than 200 levels out of the thousands already submitted–and the majority of those were for obscenity, which I applaud as a parent whose kids play LBP all. the. time.

And your level does not disappear from your system. you don’t lose ANY of your work. You can alter the parts that are either offensive or infringe on copyrights and republish the level–or play it as-is on your own system, just not online.



November 12th, 2008 at 7:26 am

No offense meant, mik, but if you think that lawyer-speak is perfectly clear, you’re sniffing glue.

For example, what *exactly* does ‘protected by copyright’ mean? Does that mean they are claiming to not have to allow ‘fair use’ of a copyright? Spot-on cloning of, say, an existing Super Mario level may be clear, but what about a level that is very much Mario look & feel but otherwise original?

Or, what does “inappropriate” mean? I mean really, you could drive a convoy through that hole. That can mean anything they want it to mean. I also wonder about the “disparage, ridicule or scorn” provision – that’s pretty broad, eye-of-the-beholder stuff.

That’s the problem with this EULA stuff, there’s usually some totally unobjectionable provisions mixed in with some highly dubious provisions. (Were I a Sony lawyer, I’d probably write something like this too – I’d want the widest possible CYA language I could impose.)



November 12th, 2008 at 7:28 am

Oh, btw, salt & vinegar is the best! the mouthfeel is a feature, not a bug!


Mr Maynard

November 12th, 2008 at 9:25 am

Great show! Lots of heated discussions, I have to agree, it totally sucks to get something taken down.

although people dont usually read EULA. something should be done so that people are pointed out, whats aloud and whats not.

Eather way.. Things should be fixed. Oh and down with DRM. I see a huge win for the consumer if everything goes right.



November 12th, 2008 at 2:00 pm

HeartbreakRidge & Mik,

You have to take a more realistic approach to the lawyerese. “Protected by Copyright,” means “not yours,” and “inappropriate” means “we can remove anything we want. It’s our server. Blah.”

Still, those “Mario” levels were reminiscent of the original levels, but they were really so different, you could probably call them parodies.

But either way, I understood not to make levels based on other IP or to actually copy published material via PSEye. To their credit, I haven’t accidentally loaded a penis level.


H4ym4k3r 10k

November 12th, 2008 at 7:00 pm

the ironic part of the whole rant by Edie, was I was saying the same thing not too long ago, when I started playing Fallout. about not reading the manual yet not knowing what to do to heal myself. I figured it would be the same as oblivion, since they are using the same engine, but NO.
as for the songs of the show. “We got shit” and Hawkes dying that might be pretty funny to have as ringtones lol


Steve Vice

November 18th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

(About the Little Big Planet censoring)
I don’t think most of the people reporting on this news actually play the game. Because most of these levels are only taken down to be reviewed and are put back up. Today people were claiming that World of Color and Azure Palace had been pulled, but I just came back from playing both.

What happens is that some jerk flags the level as inappropriate, and Sony (Yes, Sony is doing the moderation not Media Molecule), takes the level down temporarily for review, if they find nothing wrong they put it back up.

People that don’t play this game is blowing this way the heck out of proportions. There is very little censoring going on as far as I have seen myself. The only one I know of is the Mario 1-1 level, which was pretty obviously a copyright violation. The Gradius level is still there, as long as its fair use they seem to tolerate it.

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